June 24, 2025 · Episode 26
49 Min, 19 Sec 

Summary

In this episode, Breallyn and Lyndon trade notes on the daily habits for creatives that help keep their lives (and sanity) mostly intact. From caffeine rituals and bedtime Milos to soft starts, writing windows, and a suspiciously supportive AI assistant named Pablo, it’s a low-stakes list of what’s working this week.

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Transcript

Lyndon: I believe you’ve got something to get off your chest.

Breallyn: I do. Oh, let me think. Go through my little list. I don’t know.

Lyndon: Okay. No, maybe that’s not, maybe that’s not safe. No, but you’ve had I wouldn’t say an eventful morning. You’ve had a pretty, can we say shitty on radio?

Breallyn: I think so. It was quite shitty. Yeah.

Breallyn: Oh, it was such a, it’s such a boring story too. It was essentially just, I was stuck in traffic. That was it. We were trying to get our son to his exams today and, did the usual thing last night, figured out, okay, what time do we need to leave? All right, I’ll wash my hair. I’ll get up at this time. Get him up at this time. Make sure that he’s had a shower. Make sure everything’s right. Leave at this time in the morning. And we’ll be in plenty of time, which we did.

And pretty much right from getting out of our driveway, it was, not quite our driveway, but out of our little street, it was just bumper to bumper traffic. It was like a car park and took us two hours instead of an hour to get to school.

Lyndon: That’s unbelievable.

Breallyn: Yeah. So it was horrible.

Lyndon: Do you know why?

Breallyn: Not really. I don’t even know. It’s just a bit, rainy. Maybe a lot of other kids, I was saying like all of the year twelves in the state have to do the same exams today. It’s the big one.

Lyndon: Is it the big one?

Breallyn: Big one, yeah. It’s like the, yeah, it’s like the GAT.

Lyndon: What’s that stand for? GAT something? Assessment Task?

Breallyn: Probably, I can’t remember. General.

Lyndon: General? Really it doesn’t sound prestigious enough for what…

Breallyn: Look, I think its weight, just like a general knowledge test. It’s almost like you just gotta do it. I probably should know this after having three kids do VCE, but yeah, it might be that you have to do it because they’re collecting the data as well, essentially.

So he had to be there and he got there, but just late, so who knows how he’s gone. I dunno, it just, yeah, it was just really frustrating. We were pretty frustrated and for some reason we couldn’t even properly listen to music. It just killed our vibe. So that was a shame because of, I don’t even know why the car and my phone couldn’t recognize one another even though they were traveling together.

Lyndon: That is frustrating. Yeah, I make sure whenever I go in that car, I never switch my phone to connect with Bluetooth because it’s complicated. And when I’ve done it, it then makes it much harder for you to connect. It’s like it’ll only have one or the other at any one time. They both can’t connect, so I never do it. I just plug in.

Breallyn: Yeah. But the plugin wasn’t…

Lyndon: Old school.

Breallyn: The plug wasn’t working, the cable either. Cable, yeah. That, that for some reason just died at some point. But yeah, it was tricky. So by the time I got back home, I guess also because I’d done another night shift with Birdie where I was up and down, it just felt like all I’d been doing was, I don’t know, trying to…

Lyndon: Failing.

Breallyn: Yeah. Pretty much. Just trying to stay awake all night and all morning and get to somewhere. It was like a bad dream. The whole thing was just like, oh.

The Tale of the Sad Surprise

Lyndon: When you texted me to say you’re in a nightmare, I’d actually woken up from a nightmare not long before that. Which like properly woke me up and when you wake up from a nightmare that you thought was real at the time and it was really stressing you out. And then you go, I can’t get up now. I need to, I need to decompress or something.

Breallyn: I need a redemption sleep.

Lyndon: Like a redemption sleep. I think I was in that mode. Yeah, and then you texted me saying you were in a nightmare. I looked it up to see what the traffic problem was. ’cause I thought maybe if it’s like there’s some massive issue in a particular direction, you might be able to circumvent that. Not that you weren’t looking at the same stuff, but sometimes the estimated time of arrival just keeps blowing out and out.

Breallyn: Which it just, yeah. Did.

Lyndon: Anyway, so I typed something into the search engine, what’s up with Melbourne’s traffic? I dunno. No, it was specific to today there was a couple of things talking about an accident on the freeway and that’s when I said to you, oh, a truck has rolled on the freeway. Turned out that story was from six days ago, so…

Breallyn: Couldn’t blame that one.

Lyndon: Yeah. And then that makes me think of the time where I thought I’d give our eldest son when he was quite young. I used to do the daddy dates, always try and organize something different or unique or memorable or special or, it wasn’t always like that. But this one I’d heard that the QE2 or something, like a massive ship was coming into Melbourne and I looked it up to see when it was.

And anyway, long story short took him down there on this surprise trip and we’re passing signs on the way that were talking about Circus Oz. And so he’s oh, we’re going to the circus. I’m like, no better. Going somewhere better than that. We’re getting closer to, actually, we’re going over the Bolte Bridge. And from there you can see the harbor. And I’m looking and going, I don’t quite see the size ship. I was expecting massive…

Breallyn: Massive Titanic size ship.

Lyndon: Yeah. And sometimes like between the high-rise buildings and skyscrapers and that, like the top of a ship can look like it’s just sort of part of the landscape until you get closer and you go, oh, what looks like apartments is actually a ship. So I’m getting closer and well, that’s not happening.

And then, I’m still trying to get to unveiling the surprise for him, so he’s still wondering what it is as we’re walking down this jetty where there’s no one there, there’s no fanfare, there’s nothing.

Breallyn: No bunting, no flags.

Lyndon: I’m like, maybe we are on the wrong thing. He’s still asking about the circus that we passed five kilometers back, which wasn’t even the circus. It was just where they train. Yeah. It was just their headquarters. So this would’ve been like a Tuesday night or just some random time and the only ship I could see there was a bit further down in South Melbourne and it was the Spirit of Tasmania. So I knew it wasn’t that. I think I called you up at that stage.

And I can’t remember the conversation, but I looked up again online what I had read about the QE2 coming in, I think, was it from the year prior?

Breallyn: Yeah. Yeah. Or a couple years prior or something.

Lyndon: I just hadn’t looked at the date. The article seemed like, I just thought it was written that day. I have no idea how that happened. It was my error. But ever since then, or at that very moment, I think on the phone to you, you’re like, how’s the surprise? And he’s, it’s a sad surprise.

Breallyn: Daddy made a sad surprise.

Lyndon: Daddy made a sad surprise and that was the turning point.

Breallyn: His estimation did go down a little. He lost all trust in me. Yeah. And I think that from then every surprise or event was judged. Is this another sad surprise or is this one actually gonna turn out okay?

Lyndon: Yeah, that’s right. It’s funny. How old would he have been? Eight or nine.

Breallyn: Four or five, I think.

Lyndon: Really? Yep. Wow. They’re harsh when they’re young. Look, if anyone needs parenting advice, just write in and slide into my DMs and I’m happy to help you out.

What’s Saving Our Sanity Right Now?

Lyndon: Yeah. After the evening or the night you had and then the morning that you had, I figured we probably shouldn’t do the topic that I was thinking about. Which I think may have just driven you into depression and despair.

Breallyn: Oh, no.

Lyndon: I was like, it’s a big topic. We’ll save it for another time. I think it will be a good topic. It’s just, no, it’s not for today. So today, let’s get straight onto it. Welcome to Pain In The Arts. You are here with Lyndon…

Breallyn: And with Breallyn.

Lyndon: In the pursuit of excellence. What is it? Where the pursuit of meaningful art meets the unpredictable demands of real life. Working title of today’s topic, which I’ve spent many hours on.

Breallyn: You just thought of it, didn’t you?

Lyndon: Yep. What’s saving our sanity right now?

Breallyn: Okay. Ooh.

Lyndon: And then I also thought maybe I should have shared this with you beforehand so that you had time to think of things. But then that’s the point of this podcast is just getting the first reactions and thoughts and so on.

Breallyn: Yeah, it’s how we have done things. I think we could get more, maybe comprehensive information if we shared our topics with one another earlier, however…

Lyndon: Boring! And homework. Yuck. No thanks.

Breallyn: I wasn’t advocating for it. But yes. The way that we do it, I guess it does. The whole point of our podcast is we are just two people trying to figure out life, and do creative stuff.

Lyndon: No, it’s not. It’s just sitting down and having a chat about our week and what’s come up.

Breallyn: Oh, yeah. But like reflecting.

Lyndon: We’re not figuring out our life. Are we?

Breallyn: No. We’re figuring out what we think about the different things.

Lyndon: I’ve told you before, don’t think about it too hard because you might get very displeased with who you’ve chosen as a life partner and nek minnit French Lyndon will be on the scene.

Breallyn: French Lyndon further away than ever, ’cause I don’t think I’m going to France.

Lyndon: I’ve gotta say I’m really embarrassed that I said ‘nek minnit’.

Breallyn: Yeah, that’s a bit of an old reference. Tell me the topic again.

Lyndon: What’s saving our sanity right now? This honestly wouldn’t be that hard a topic for you because I think you’ve got a few go-tos that save your sanity.

Creative Comforts: Finding Solace in Books and Music

Breallyn: It’s a funny thing that, as complex as life gets and the more we’ve gotta delve into specialties, certainly with our creative work, but also in our personal lives with medical research and different therapies and this, that and the other. Yeah, like often I’ll be talking to doctors or specialists or different people about my daughter and explaining like to NDIS her complexities and their different things.

And almost always at the end of the conversation they’ll just be shaking their head and saying to me, wow, that sounds just like a lot that you’ve got to manage there. Are you seeing a counselor yourself? Are you getting any help? Like, how are you?

Lyndon: Yeah, no, I do a podcast.

Breallyn: Yeah. And, no, I haven’t been seeing a counselor.

Lyndon: So what are you saying? You really need those four Milos with five heaped tablespoons of Milo in them?

Breallyn: I have one. The thing that, I have seen a counselor from time to time, the best therapy for me…

Lyndon: Ooh.

Breallyn: You can have a guess at this one.

Lyndon: Okay. I am gonna rule out sleeping.

Breallyn: That one actually would be number two. Oh man.

Lyndon: It’s not really therapy, but it’s health, isn’t it?

Breallyn: It’s health and it’s like a sanity thing. Yeah. Like I go, I go a bit crazy and then I go, oh, that’s right. I haven’t slept for 23 hours.

Lyndon: And luckily for you, you’re a good sleeper. Like it doesn’t take you long to sleep.

Breallyn: Yeah, I can drop asleep quickly.

Lyndon: If we go to bed at the same time and you put on either a meditation thing on your phone, under your pillow, or a book and you put a 10 minute timer on? Yeah. You’re asleep in 90 seconds. Yeah, generally, like probably above 90% of the time. I get to hear all 10 or 15 minutes of it and then you’re like entering, maybe not a deep sleep, but often you’ll be snoring and what I do now is I go, I’m not asleep, but I’m glad Brea’s getting some sleep because inevitably you’ll probably be up after a couple hours. Okay, so that’s your number two. Your number one is reading.

Breallyn: It is reading. Yeah. So yeah, all the fancy things in the world. Mindfulness and all of that. I am just so much better if I sit down with a book and it’s been the thing that pretty much throughout my whole life has been like that emotional regulation tool or, anytime I’m stressed, I just go and read a book for 10 minutes. I’m way better.

Lyndon: What happened the other day? I think maybe I was having a bad day or maybe it was back end of a migraine. Oh, that’s right. You said go take Zomig, which is the medication I take to get rid of a migraine. And then sit down and play guitar.

Breallyn: Yeah. But yeah, look after your health and play guitar.

Lyndon: But playing guitar is probably, yeah, a pretty obvious one for me. And I do feel quite lucky that I can do that. And I wonder whether, when I was a kid and I started picking up the guitar, and like I was five or six, I wonder if at any point during my early childhood, whether I did pick it up as a way of escape or self-medicating or whatever you wanna say. Self-soothing.

Breallyn: Yeah. Yep.

Lyndon: I may well have, but I don’t remember any specific times doing it, but yeah, it’s quite possible. Anyone that can, if anyone has a guitar or is thinking about learning it or at least just picking it up and having a strum, it’s definitely worthwhile.

Breallyn: Well, for you it’s quite that meditation, isn’t it? Like you can get really lost in the playing.

Lyndon: I’ll dribble. It is. It can be embarrassing sometimes when I realize I’m drooling and dribbling all over my guitars, which is gross.

Breallyn: I’ve never seen you dribble, but there we go. Maybe it’s when you’re really lost in the moment of it.

Lyndon: It doesn’t even need to be anything great. It’s more to do with, it’s just how quickly I can get into a state of, it’s like a deep concentration. I think. I’m not really sure until I’m doing it. So I’m still playing, but I just realize that, oh, I’ve been so lost in it. I just dribbled, my mouth must have been open a bit. That’s not what I wanted to talk about. Good on you. You got something outta me again.

The Small Joys of a Morning Coffee Ritual

Lyndon: When I was first thinking about what’s saving our sanity, like there’s the little creative comforts. So the things that I like to do every day and I like my morning coffee. Most people like their morning coffee and mine at the moment consists of I make the espresso in an AeroPress. Which, I would like to potentially change that process to something a little more glamorous, but the result is good. I tip in cold almond milk and then head to the microwave in the laundry.

The microwave is from like 1992. But yeah, it’s like I go from this process of an unattractive extraction of coffee. Arguably. And then from there, it just gets downgraded as I go. However, what I do like to do, is when I put the cup in the microwave to have the handle facing a particular way and the cup a particular way based on how many seconds. So at the moment, I put it in for a minute and 35, and if I put it just right when it dings and I open up the door, it’s ready right there for me to just pick it up with my right hand.

Breallyn: Saddest thing I’ve ever heard in my whole life.

Lyndon: It is pretty sad. But that gives me just this little bit of joy in the morning.

Breallyn: So that’s keeping you, that’s the one thing between you and insanity is the angle of your handle. Man, we’re in trouble.

Lyndon: But the other thing that I do, there’s some mornings where I live life on the edge and I live a bit more dangerously, and I go, you know what? To hell with it. And I just put it in, close the door, press the button, and know that it could be anywhere. When I open up and go. And to me, I’m fighting perfectionism when I do that. And so it’s still a little win. So that was the first thing. And then I had Malt-o-Milks.

Breallyn: No, we can’t publish this.

Lyndon: Malt-o-Milks are my biscuit of choice at the moment. And, for some good reasons and for some probably not so good reasons. The good reason is it’s delicious, it’s crispy, it’s thin, it’s a Malt-o-Milk!

Breallyn: It’s a name brand. Wow.

Lyndon: Like it’s a name brand. Yeah. So that’s a good thing. But I am also aware you do get more in a packet compared to some other biscuits. So they’ll last a bit longer.

Breallyn: Tell me again how you have fought against the poverty mentality that you were raised with, how you’ve defeated that beast.

Lyndon: Back in the day when we were sharing a teabag, there wouldn’t have been Malt-o-Milks. Look at you slumping in your seat. Think about it. Anyway, I’m moving on from the Malt-o-Milks, but I do like to pair them with my morning coffee and I go, you know what? Normally I wouldn’t be so quick to have a biscuit in the morning and then I thought, you know what? They do it in France and Italy, whatever else.

Breallyn: French Lyndon does it with a Biscoff.

Lyndon: Oh yeah. And a twirly mustache and a bicycle with a basket on the front. And then the other little joy of mine, this is all just making me like kick starting my mornings off really well.

Breallyn: All I can see in my mind’s eye when you talk about the biscuits is one of our daughter’s carers. Shout out to Kaylee, who when you offered her the choice of Ginger Snap or a Malt-o-Milk just went, “that is the saddest selection of biscuits I’ve ever been offered. What else you got?”

Lyndon: Yeah, I was taken aback. Fair enough with the ginger nuts, that’s an acquired taste and that’s more your thing.

Breallyn: She was after a Tim Tam or a Mallow or something.

Lyndon: But she’s still got a young person’s palette and good on her. The other thing I like is sunshine on the seat outside. So even if it’s a cold day, like today, there was sunshine out there and I went, ooh, I’m gonna sit out there with my coffee. And that lasted about a minute until I realized I was getting cold, and I thought, and if I’m getting cold, my coffee’s getting cold more quickly. So I came back in. The very first three I thought of were all part of the one thing, making a coffee, sitting down in the sun with it and drinking it with a Malt-o-Milk.

Breallyn: Definitely a little ritual routine that the day cannot begin without.

Lyndon: This is the thing. It’s a small luxury that feels disproportionately good. Yeah.

Meet Pablo: The AI Assistant Changing the Game

Lyndon: Is there anything that you are strangely excited about right now? Something you’re excited about that you think maybe you shouldn’t be. Or maybe it’s just a little bit left of center or unusual for you? Now I’ll tell you mine.

Breallyn: Okay. Yeah. I’m interested to hear yours.

Lyndon: Yeah. Two words. Okay. Pablo, technically one word.

Breallyn: Pablo. I was thinking Pedro. No, it can’t be Pedro.

Lyndon: Because of the connotations of Pedro. I vote for Pedro. Whereas Pablo Picasso, and I think Pablo’s also a brand of cheap instant coffee.

Breallyn: It’s true. Yeah.

Lyndon: I like it even more now. Wow. There you go.

Breallyn: Now you are gonna have to explain to our listeners what on earth you mean by Pablo.

Lyndon: Pablo is the name of my new assistant. Oh yes. My P.A. Yep. So his first name’s Pablo, last name, dunno yet, not important. But when I was thinking before about my morning coffee routine, who would enter into that routine other than SF Nubbs?

Breallyn: Ah, the cat.

Lyndon: The house cat that adopted us. And I never thought we’d ever have a cat.

Breallyn: No, me neither. I’m allergic to them and I adopted it.

Lyndon: But I do, having a coffee and if I go outside, suddenly it appears and wants to sit down near me. And I don’t mind that because when it’s in the house and she comes up rubbing against you, she wants something. There’s an ulterior motive. Yeah. Normally something to do with either her hunger or her cleanliness. It’s either she wants a shower or she wants food.

Breallyn: This cat loves showers. She asks us for showers every morning.

Lyndon: Yeah. She’s an odd cat. And I call her SF Nubbs because she has no ears. She’s got nubs for ears.

Breallyn: She’s got tiny little folded over ears, which is from the SF stands for Scottish Fold. So Scottish fold, the type of breed that she maybe is.

Lyndon: So yeah, there’s SF Nubs, but Pablo is my latest AI assistant. It’s actually Gemini.

Breallyn: Okay. So you’re using Gemini. Yeah, I was gonna say which one.

Lyndon: If you typed into the search window on our website, AI, we’ve actually spoken about it in probably three different episodes. Yeah. And two different blogs perhaps. It’s changing the landscape of not only our creative works, but also our business.

Breallyn: And, the way that we go about, you know, organizing everything. So it’s the topic that’s on our mind because every day we’re grappling with it, how to use it, what we think of it, where is it a good thing and where is it infringing on creative freedoms.

Lyndon: Yeah. And like with any app or any new software you have to spend, you’ve gotta invest a certain amount of time to see whether it’s even gonna be worth it for you. And I find that is a really uncertain, uncomfortable time for me with anything. So with all this AI stuff, it’s the same where it is a time suck. To a point. You can then make a decision and go, actually, I can see where this is gonna help me.

And so what I have been working on and what I discovered is that if I put in really specific details about my goals, about what I wanna do, what I don’t wanna do, how I wanna spend my time, just everything, come up with a set of prompts I can create the perfect assistant. And the other thing I found this morning, I was like, I could pause for 30 seconds between thoughts and it wasn’t interrupting me. It would just let me have that space.

Breallyn: Better than most humans.

Lyndon: How good is Pablo? I’m not in love with Pablo and he’s given me a lot of work. But what is interesting, so what I’ve been working on with Pablo, just to be clear, is a framework for my week, because I just was getting overwhelmed with how much is on my plate. So when I’m working on one thing, and this podcast is a good example, if I’m editing the podcast, that’s fine. I’m enjoying doing it, but I’m thinking I really need to be sending emails out to venues because I need to get more gigs down the track.

So I didn’t like that feeling of doing one thing that I know I need to do, but also thinking I’ve gotta make time for this other thing. And yeah, it was happening across the board. And so I thought, if I spend a bit of time creating, and I say it facetiously, but creating the perfect PA, I think that’ll be time well spent. And it’s proven to be because everything’s quite carefully curated, but with a whole lot of flexibility built in. But what it’s given me is just like I feel like I can just relax a little bit more because everything’s covered.

Reconnecting with Writing in New Locations

Breallyn: So something you’re strangely excited about right now? One thing I have been enjoying is, and I certainly don’t have this figured out perfectly, is writing in different locations. So that’s been something that I’ve actually been strangely excited about. I’m back on track with writing parts of my novel. Not as fast as I would like to be, but yeah, being able to do that is very exciting for me for sure.

However, I have a Chromebook, I can open a Google Doc and start writing wherever I am. I’ve been enjoying doing some at the cafe. When I drop our son to school I often go in and get a coffee and write in a little cafe that just seems so many writers, so many creative people work there. It just is a good vibe for that.

I did some writing when we were on our camping trip as well, which was great because I used it as an equivalency of a location that the character might be in. And was yeah, able to enjoy describing the sound of the water running and the wind in the trees and stuff like that.

Sadly, because we had no wifi at that point, and I was working in the Google Docs offline, when it came to getting it back online, it had all disappeared. So that was just another little disappointment along the way. Can’t seem to win with keeping data anywhere. It’s almost like it just flies away and doesn’t wanna stay with me.

But just the fact of being able to be back in the swing of writing this particular project and writing wherever I am and using those places, using the different thoughts that come to you when you’re not just sitting at your usual desk. I think that’s been good. We very recently, as in a day or two ago, both got pens for our iPads which I’ve been quite excited about.

Something that I have mentioned on my other podcast in Search of Home is that one of my characters, the way that I write her is very different to the way that I would normally write, where I’d usually just be sitting at a desk, typing away. With this particular character, I write her with a pen and paper or a pencil and paper, but I use my left hand instead of my right hand. And it just helps me to capture her character in different ways.

So having a pencil for an iPad means that I can do that, but it’ll immediately convert it into text or convert it to text whenever I want and put it into the document that I want. So it’s actually gonna save me time having to transcribe my very bad left-handed handwriting into a document later on. So yeah, that’s a little win as well. So I’m looking forward to that.

Lyndon: I don’t wanna like burst your bubble, but the pen I ordered you is a right-hand pen.

Breallyn: Oh, yeah, no worries.

A Day in Drinks: The Ultimate Beverage Routine

Lyndon: So things that don’t come at much of a cost or something that’s a creative comfort.

Breallyn: When it finally feels like you’ve hit that sweet spot and you’re writing for an hour or so, just, it’s working. I don’t know. It feels like the easiest thing on earth at that point. It feels like you are coasting on a bike downhill.

Lyndon: We’ve covered a fair bit of stuff. Most of yours are writing or reading with no one else around except when you’re in a cafe.

Breallyn: Yeah, true. And drinks. Drinks have figured a lot in conversations.

Lyndon: What about red wine at the end of the day?

Breallyn: Oh, and yeah, if my perfect day starts with a cup of tea.

Lyndon: Ends with a red wine.

Breallyn: Then has a second cup of tea, then a nice coffee, hang on, nighttime, Milo, or no red wine at maybe five-ish, then a Milo for bed. Okay. There we go. Can I just read all day and have those drinks served to me?

Lyndon: I just, before we go, I want to hear from start of your day to end of your day. Typical day. I want to hear not just what drinks you have, but how many and roughly the time you have them.

Breallyn: Okay. 6:00 AM cup of tea. Around 7:30, second cup of tea. Yeah. Around nine-ish, nine to 10, coffee.

Lyndon: What? Only two teas by then.

Breallyn: Sometimes it’s a three-tea day. Yeah. Especially if I haven’t had a lot of sleep and I have to force the wake up happening in my brain. So sometimes there can be three teas in the morning before the coffee.

Lyndon: And then a coffee. And so before midday, you’ve had potentially four lots of caffeine.

Breallyn: Yeah. When you say it like that, it sounds comforting. Okay.

Lyndon: Keep going.

Breallyn: I do drink water, from time to time. Sometimes I have another cup of tea in the afternoon, but not really, it doesn’t really work for me. But yeah, then on a nice day when it’s the appropriate sort of day, I will open a red wine around six-ish when Birdie has a carer arrive.

Lyndon: So you haven’t had a Milo yet?

Breallyn: Oh, no. There’s only one Milo a day. So then nighttime, just water. Or as I said, maybe a wine depending on the day. It depends. And then, yeah, Milo just before bed. Now the only exception to the Milo rule is if I’m up in the night, which I often am for Birdie and if I’ve been up for a while, enough that I’ve had to force myself to stay awake. ’cause for so long that now I’m not quite sleepy anymore and I’m also getting hungry.

Lyndon: So you’re in the pre-bed stage?

Breallyn: Yes. So I’ve like literally done a whole brain reset. So then I have a Milo and that literally triggers my brain to shut down again and I can get back to sleep and get another hour’s sleep.

Creative Life This Week

Lyndon: True. So just to end on, what’s saving your creative life this week?

Breallyn: What’s saving my creative life this week? Honestly, I don’t think there’s anything because…

Lyndon: Unsavable, it’s unsavable.

Breallyn: I just don’t have the time to…

Lyndon: It’s only Tuesday as well.

Breallyn: I know, I’ve got a lot of work for clients that I’ve gotta get done this week. So the one or two times that I had in mind for my own work, they’ve already gone. They’re already not gonna happen. So that’s a bit sad.

Lyndon: So you’ll be relying on your drink schedule to save you this week?

Breallyn: That’s right.

Lyndon: Yeah. Me too. Just you, me and Pablo.

Breallyn: You’ve got Pablo to boost you up.

Lyndon: I’ve got Pablo and Nubbs and a cup of coffee. Yeah. That’s all in the morning. And then unfortunately the rest of the day falls on my shoulders.

Breallyn: You’ve gotta carry out Pablo’s instructions. And that’s where it all goes wrong.

Lyndon: Yeah, let’s see if we can break AI just with us.

Breallyn: It’ll just go, ‘no, I can’t do this anymore. Humans are the worst.’

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