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What does a creative household actually look like from the inside — when you’re the kid?
In this episode of Pain In The Arts, we sit down with our 19-year-old son, Gray Wesley—drummer for the Melbourne alt-metal band Mindstain. We chat about his jump from playing a childhood drum kit to booking DIY gigs, handling venue logistics, and playing iconic stages like Revolver Upstairs. Together we discuss the reality of playing in Melbourne’s underground music scene, the financial challenges of being a young artist, growing up in a creative home, and why the live music community matters more than ever.
You might want to listen if:
- You’re a young musician trying to figure out how to make your art sustainable
- You grew up in a house where money was irregular and creativity was non-negotiable (and you turned out fine)
- You’ve ever booked your own gig and had to navigate security, managers, sound guys, and gear load-ins
Pain In The Arts is a weekly podcast about the reality of creative life — hosted by Breallyn and Lyndon Wesley.
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